Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section – it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

Giorgio Armani Italian fashion designer Giorgio Armani (pictured) dies at the age of 91. A derailment on the Ascensor da Glória funicular in Lisbon, Portugal, kills 16 people. A magnitude-6.0 earthquake in Afghanistan leaves more than 2,200 people dead. Samoa United in Faith wins an absolute majority in the general election. Ongoing: Gaza war Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Klaus Thunemann Abdellah Liegeon Robert Diouf Zhanna Kolodub Lourdes Ambriz Estela Molina view — page history — related changes — edit

Glossary Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story. Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story. A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles. Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage. The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death. All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality. Nomination steps Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC). Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate. Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready! You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination. The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted. Headers When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria. Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A. If satisfied, change the header to (Posted). Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted). Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled). Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Please do... Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible. Please do not... Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive. Suggesting updates There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items: Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors. Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

Archives

Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

Sections

This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.

---

September 5

Portal:Current events/2025 September 5
September 5, 2025 (2025-09-05) (Friday) Disasters and accidents A bus carrying tourists plunges down a hill in Uva Province, Sri Lanka, killing at least 15 people and injuring 15 more. (Indian Express)

---

September 4

Portal:Current events/2025 September 4

September 4, 2025 (2025-09-04) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip, 2025 Gaza City offensive At least 75 Palestinians are killed, including 44 who are killed in Gaza City, amid Israel's military assault. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2025 Afghanistan earthquake Hundreds of deceased people are found under the rubble of collapsed houses after the August 31 earthquake in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan, bringing the death toll to 2,205. (AP) Seventeen people are injured and fifteen are hospitalized when a double-decker bus crashes near Victoria station in London, England. (AP) Health and environment Vaccination policy of the United States Make America Healthy Again The U.S. state of Florida announces it will formally eliminate all vaccination mandates, including school and childhood mandates for chickenpox, measles, and polio. (DW) (AP) The Democratic Republic of the Congo declares a new Ebola outbreak in Kasaï Province with 28 suspected cases and 15 deaths, confirmed as the Zaire strain. (Reuters) International relations Algeria–Mali relations The Malian transitional government files a lawsuit against Algeria at the International Court of Justice and accuses Algeria of destroying a Malian military drone near Tinzaouaten, Kidal region, to allegedly hinder Mali's campaign against armed rebels in the Mali War. (AP) Belarus–Poland relations Belarus detains a Polish national and a Belarusian citizen on charges of espionage after authorities allege they possessed documents on Zapad 2025. (Reuters) Ecuador–United States relations, War on drugs The United States designates Ecuadorian drug cartels Los Choneros and Los Lobos as terrorist organizations. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio also says that the US will support the Ecuadorian Navy by providing $6 million in drones and $13 other million for general security in the fight against these gangs. (Reuters) Law and crime Chromebook procurement scandal Former Indonesian education minister and Gojek co-founder Nadiem Makarim are detained after prosecutors name him as a suspect in a corruption case over the alleged unauthorized procurement of Chromebook laptops that resulted in state losses estimated at Rp 1.98 trillion (US$121.85 million). (Reuters) Robodebt scheme Australia agrees to pay an additional A$475 million (US$309M) in compensation to victims of the unlawful "Robodebt" welfare debt recovery scheme, bringing total repayments and compensation to A$2.4 billion (US$1.6 bn) in what would be the country's largest class action settlement if approved by the courts. (Reuters) Two people are killed, including the suspect, and eight others are injured in a stabbing spree in Hollow Water First Nation, Manitoba, Canada. (CBC) A Hong Kong jury convicts three people and acquits five others over 2020 bomb plots targeting hospitals and trains during the COVID-19 pandemic, finding them guilty of conspiracy to cause explosions but not of terrorism charges under the UN anti-terrorism law. (Reuters) Former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra leaves Thailand after a court ruling that placed him at risk for arrest. Police indicate that he was allowed to leave the country as there is no active warrant for his arrest. (AP) Politics and elections 2025 Jamaican general election Jamaica's Labour Party wins the general election with 34 seats in the House of Representatives against 29 for the People's National Party, securing a third term for Prime Minister Andrew Holness amid a voter turnout of 39.5%. (Reuters) Censorship in Nepal Nepal orders its telecommunications authority to block access to unregistered social media platforms after companies failed to meet government requirements to register locally and designate compliance representatives. (Reuters) Argentina's Congress overturns President Javier Milei's veto of a bill expanding spending and protections for people with disabilities, marking the first such reversal of his presidency. (Reuters)

---

Myanmar Civil war onto ongoing or Sudanese civil war off

Article: Myanmar civil war (2021–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Kennet.mattfolk (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: already outlined my Reasons why , so pls look through the arguments already made. That said I do think there is an bias in the ongoing events on how what conflict page is chosen. That imo requires a broader discussion to solve. There were several counter points that I found reinforced this view.

My proposal here is to either A) Add the Myanmar Civil War article or B) Remove the Sudanese one. If one goes with the @Masem standard it should be B). (See reasons why wikilink). But for simplicities sake I'm going to propose A) Add Myanmar Civil War to the ongoing page.

Here's my first post from that talk page: "Why is this not listed in the ongoing wars section? I've previously seen it flicker back and forth, added and removed, like an Yoyo. The conflict isn't as media sexy in English language media. However, if you check handy wiki articles like List of ongoing armed conflicts, you'll see the conflict goes pretty hot in comparison. I'm also the creator and maintainer of Operation 1111, and I can tell you there is constant combat. So far, I see more arguments for its adding than not. As you can observe from the conflict list linked above, it fills the definition of Uppsala Conflict Data Program criteria for an major conflict, not only this, as per the same article you can see that it was an deadlier (unfortunetly) conflict than the already mentioned (on the wiki mainp age) Sudanese Civil War for the year 2024. The area where the conflict falls behind is in popular english language media coverage, like your fox news, cnn, bbc etc. Probably bc said nation states have fewer interests invested there, thus ppl in these countries also care less. If my assumption is correct, and correct me if I'm wrong, then I'd argue media sexyness is a bad criteria to follow and based on information pointed to above, this article should be added to the main page. Which is for clarity what I do wish and propose. Thank you."

As said above, on the talk page I had also wished to discuss the standards of how an article makes it onto the ongoing section, however @Khuft made an suggestion to post here too about it, to make an proposal out of it. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 21:57, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

My concern here is the article here does not show the frequency of updates to merit ongoing, with the last 50 edits covering 3to 4 months of events (and that's not counting which edits are significant additions). The event may be ongoing but we also expect the article to demonstrate near daily updates. Masem (t) 22:16, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

The problem is that overall activity is split over multiple subpages, including "timeline" pages. They (i.e. Myanmar, Gaza, Russia, Sudan, and possibly Maghreb as well from List of ongoing armed conflicts) should all be listed. If you include Operation 1111 then it definitely has activity to meet the requirement. - Indefensible (talk) 23:13, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean Operation 1111 as OP 1107 definitely hasn't had significant updates. Also can see from the timeline that that seems regularly updated, so that alleviates my concerns on the updates. The main conflict page could be written more holistically to defer details to these other parties, which would help see that. Masem (t) 23:19, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Yes, 1111. The problem there is if you duplicate or add too much material to the main page, then it defeats the purpose of having the subpage. This is kind of a systemic design question. I would remove the "timeline" links from the box to save space, and replace them with the Myanmar link. Giving 2 links for a subject versus 0 for another is kind of imbalanced and unfair to be honest. - Indefensible (talk) 23:24, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I'm not saying that the main page should have every detail (that's why we have Summary Style), just that I don't get a summary-style read of the main page, with a bit too much detail about individual events that are not major points in the conflict (which are fine on subpages). Masem (t) 01:06, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

1107 is down to sources/media outlets dropping the name and just blanket using Op1111. Also it is true that not all is put on the Myanmar CW main page, simply bc there were discussions of it becoming too large. As a solution we decided to pawn off many of the details to daughter articles, like 1111 1027 etc. If you also follow the news, all the sectors of the war are active and there is news reporting on it. Not all daughter articles are as actively updated as others though. Even though the Op1027 isn't as activly updated, it itself has gotten articles that are part of it, but cover an battle of it like Battle of Maungdaw, while Op1111 sorta is an all-in-one article now for most Kayah war related stuff. Probably bc Op1111 is mostly kept up to date by one guy now (me), not counting ce edits and such, but stuff adding new information. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 01:35, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't have any personal stake in this but I applaud your efforts to keep this subject covered. - Indefensible (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I think it deserves to be covered, I too don't have an stake in the conflict beyond editing the article and occasionally throwing edits back to the main page. There is enough information for all other articles and fronts to be updated too, but I trust the universe that someone else will cover those. And if ever someone else wants to take over from me or fix my probably insane amount of spelling mistakes etc. I would warmly welcome it :D. I though it would've been an few month long battle and project when it started :D Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 01:47, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it definitely should be covered. Editing is a kind of stake, but without you keeping it updated maybe no one else would have. - Indefensible (talk) 01:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

It is an stake, in the topic at least.  :)

Just to add to the discussion above on how active this civil war is;

Op1027: https://www.irrawaddy.com/opinion/analysis/uwsa-neutered-myanmars-revolutionary-driving-force-derailed-by-china.html

Karen: https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-junta-throws-everything-at-offensive-to-recapture-asian-highway.html

Kachin: https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-junta-counterattacks-in-waingmaw-sparking-fierce-clashes-with-kia.html

Despite Op1111 maybe being active in edits, the other fronts of the war are in many ways more hot atm. And due to that higher barrier of entry most news sites in English that cover it are usually from south east Asia. Probably bc the impact of it effects them is some way. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 02:01, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Just to be clear, Im looking at Timeline of the Myanmar civil war (2021–present) which shows good frequency of updates and linked out of one of the main body navboxes for the conflict. Masem (t) 03:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

As per the reasons why discussions above and per the Masem standard he layed out as 'near daily' edits, as show there only Gaza and Ukraine fill this criteria. If this is it, then instead of adding Myanmar, imo Sudan should be removed. Imo, instead of going with x y or z wiki editors news tastes there should be an standard and if a b or c article fills it implement it for that. Also as to the conflicts themselves, the journalistic barrier of entry is higher in Myanmar, as part of Op1111, the battle over Mobye, there was an BBC article or reporting if memory serves, where they had to be smuggled into the country in order to report and also not the most comfy or secure such. Thus its also an factor, Ukraine is easier to get to, stay in Kiev and report about the front far away in relative safety and comfort. Plus the other reasons. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 00:07, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Procedural Close - should be two seperate nominations for two different topics. This will only create confusion. 23:10, 4 September 2025 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nfitz (talk • contribs)

move to talk it is a discussion on what should be, doesn't need to be for the merits of the article or news until someting comes out of discussion,2A00:F3C:4C6C:0:C8:6A07:3902:F792 (talk) 02:17, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Technically I did state "My proposal here is to either A) Add the Myanmar Civil War article or B) Remove the Sudanese one. If one goes with the @Masem standard it should be B). (See reasons why wikilink). But for simplicities sake I'm going to propose A) Add Myanmar Civil War to the ongoing page." And I added the Myanmar civil war wiki link as article to be added in the original template. I just happen to discuss alternatives to the proposal and maybe in-case the proposal fails there is already something else to think of. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 02:24, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• In lieu of drawing ire here, I'd move for a speedy close. Not only is this not the correct nomination format, but this discussion is much better had in the talk page. DarkSide830 (talk) 04:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  There was only one parameter that was off (that being the ongoing marker). The format is otherwise correct for an ongoing nom. Masem (t) 05:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  Rather than people being bureaucratic about it, could we not just add a 2nd template for removal of Sudan to this same discussion section? As this is the correct location for discussion additions and removals of articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  I got directed here, from the talk page btw, now ppl want to shuffle it back. Pls decide. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 09:01, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted as blurb) RD/Blurb: Giorgio Armani

Article: Giorgio Armani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Italian fashion designer Giorgio Armani (pictured) dies at the age of 91. (Post)
News source(s): Sky News London Evening Standard
Credits:

• Nominated by ItsShandog (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gianluigi02 (talk · give credit), Autumn Simon (talk · give credit), ItsShandog (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Fashion Designer ItsShandog (talk) 13:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose, way unsourced. Masem (t) 13:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, i would support a blurb here but the quality issues seem very steep. I would recommend strengthening the influence (mostly reorganizing) so the reason why a blurb is clearly established in one section. They are there but scattered around. Masem (t) 19:35, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

@Masem: Currently expanding a legacy section. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Blurb but oppose on quality definitely transformative, so meets WP:ITNRDBLURB in my view. Sourcing for article is poor though. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support and blurb when improved definitely one of the greatest. --Cart (talk) 13:56, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb when article's quality is improved. He was clearly a transformative figure and a household name in the world of fashion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:04, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality, neutral on blurb, there are many claims that are uncited in the article. I don't know anything about fashion design so I'm not to say about blurb-worthiness. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 14:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC) Quality looks fine now, and support blurb per others. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 21:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  @Chorchapu: Currently expanding a legacy section depicting his impact on the fashion industry. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:42, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support blurb, oppose on quality Article needs some ref work done (10 citation needed tags). Strong support blurb as it's clear Armani is the top of his field as an influential fashion designer and his death is being reported globally. The article does depict the influence/impact Armani had on the fashion industry as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, notable person, but not yet adequately sourced. CREditzWiki, editor (talk) 14:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  • After new sourcing, I'm willing to change my opinion to support. CREditzWiki, editor (talk) 21:52, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality and oppose blurb - article does not show how he was globally influential or influential in the top of his field. Simply being the "richest LGBT person ever" doesn't make someone blurbable, and the claims that he "pioneered" things are only cited by one paper. ^EF⁵ 14:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support on RD Oppose on blurb. QalasQalas (talk) 15:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb on notability, oppose on quality - Armani was a true landmark figure in the world of fashion, and to an extent business more broadly. He's exactly the sort of person we should be blurbing. Unfortunately, his article is filled with unsourced material, proseline, poor writing, missing list elements, and unbalanced section size. Until that's all addressed, this shouldn't go on the homepage. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:01, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability Top stylist. ArionStar (talk) 16:18, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb on notability, but the quality clearly isn't there yet --GhostStalker (Got a present for ya! / Mission Log) 16:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment @Joseph2302:, @Chorchapu:, @CREditzWiki:, @GenevieveDEon:, @GhostStalker:: Fixed sourcing issues. The discussion can now be focused on if this should be blurbed or just RD. @EF5: & @QalasQalas: Multiple obits are calling Armani a game changer in the fashion industry, mainly his impact on celebrity fashion and how the use of suits was revolutionized thanks to him. I'm expanding a legacy section that depicts his impact on the industry to establish his influential status as a fashion designer. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Sourcing is much better, thank you. Prose quality is still pretty shaky. I tweaked it a little myself; I'll look again in the morning. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:25, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb on notability; quality is rapidly being addressed. BD2412 T 20:13, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Conditionally Supporting Blurb Article is in rough shape right now and quality needs to be addressed. Otherwise, I support the blurbing of him per the other supports above, household name and arguably a transformative figure. Support RD Hungry403 (talk) 23:16, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

UTC)

• Support blurb on notability; As the head of a global, household brand he’d probably be nudging towards a blurb on that alone but as the legacy section shows he was more important and influential than that. 2A00:23C8:A6D7:6E01:A080:940D:9C70:F0C8 (talk) 22:04, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD Looks adequate for posting. Oppose blurb While certainly a well known and prominent figure in his field, I don't think he was the Nelson Mandela of men's fashion. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  On the contrary I think he was the Mandela of the fashion industry if not the Hawking or perhaps his own person? As the legacy section shows, he essentially transformed the idea of wearing suits and was a transformative figure in terms of red carpet/celebrity fashion. He’s been called the leading figure of modern fashion and a revolutionary figure in the industry as well, something the article does establish I’d say. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb. An iconic and transformative figure in fashion. As NYT writes about Armani, "a designer who rewrote the rules of fashion not once but twice in his lifetime,"[1], and as BBC says, "the first designer since Coco Chanel to bring about a lasting change in the way people dress."[2] Nsk92 (talk) 00:44, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted consensus is for a blurb. Stephen 00:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Pull since there's no separate article for the death, which makes it not notable as an event. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  Out of all the death blurbs we’ve posted this year, a solid number of them didn’t have death articles. Usually the one of the arguments about blurbing deaths is the impact these individuals had on their respective fields and if their articles establish such notability/influence. Armani’s article, at least I think, does just that. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:26, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  If a death is not notable enough for its own article, it's (generally) not notable enough for ITN. Old man dies, and all. Some deaths are worth posting because of their direct effect - those of serving heads of state, or assassinations. Occasionally, very occasionally, you can justify one for a private citizen or retired politician. But a fashion designer? It might be news in Italy, but certainly not globally. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:17, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  There is zero requirement for a separate death article, and it can be disruptive to keep trying to insist there such a requirement when that is not at all among the guidelines. Masem (t) 05:03, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  It's not an absolute requirement, but I would say that it's a good first-order test of whether someone is notable enough for a death blurb. As you well know, I think ITN is far too liberal with them, partially because "impact on a field" is an infinitely movable goalpost and also because of topic provincialism (no matter how revolutionary an underwater basket-weaver you were, that's just not a world-changing life story) This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  It's not a requirement and in many cases would be an unnecessary WP:CFORK. There are 3 situations for people meeting WP:ITNRDBLURB, and only "death as the main story" criteria would be appropriate for creating death articles. Transformative figures dying of old age don't need separate articles, however they can still meet the criteria of transformative figures- which Armani does. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:09, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  This man influenced everyday's appearance of hundreds of millions of people, re-wrote the books on formal and smart-casual dressing and exerted a major shift in the clothing industry, especially in countries with cheap labour where millions of people work for subsistence. So, it doesn't really seem that his field is provincial.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:04, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

  Agree with this. I know very little about fashion, but as soon as I read on BBC News that he'd died, I immediately thought that this would be a successful "death blurb" nomination, hence why I added the blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

There is no requirement for a separate death article. You are, bluntly, lying to the editor base every time you claim otherwise. As Joseph2302 rightly observes, it would in fact be a violation of WP:CFORK in this and many other cases in which you present this spurious claim. Please stop. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support blurb—A highly transformative figure in the fashion industry. Merits a blurb. Kurtis ^(talk) 08:08, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support blurb, a blurb seems reasonable, I would also support one for Bernard Arnault when he dies. Sahaib (talk) 08:24, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support for blurb - I have struck my earlier opposition. Everyone who has worked to improve this article has done a great job; it's a big improvement. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Streameast

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Article: Streameast (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The world's largest pirate sports streaming service is closed by a police raid. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Streameast, an illegal sport streaming service, closes following a police raid.
News source(s): BBC, NYT
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: I was surprised to find that we didn't have an article about this and so have made a start. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:09, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Plenty of piracy sites go up and get taken down every day. We didn’t post for Soap2day and that was arguably bigger. rooves13 (talk) 11:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Soap2day wasn't nominated and we don't seem to have an article for it. But we have posted other such cases as The Pirate Bay and Megaupload. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:48, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• WE posted the conviction of the Pirate Bay operators. We posted both the conviction and the shutdown of Megaupload, but the latter was made more significant by Anonymous staging various attacks to protest the shutdown. Besides the unacceptable short length of this article, I'm not seeing many crying over this loss here, so it would only make sense to post if the operators are convicted in court. Masem (t) 12:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Comment added altblurb. I feel the main blurb is far too bombastic and contains loaded language. I feel the current length of the article is insufficient. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 13:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  I should clarify that I currently oppose as I feel the target article itself doesn't meet Wikipedia's general notability criteria even with expansion (but that's a whole other discussion). I also feel the event itself lacks any lasting impact. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 17:54, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, besides the fact that the article is unpostably short, this hasn't been widely reported on and, like Rooves 13 said, there have been bigger piracy-related news items that weren't posted. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 13:42, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  Comment This is now up for deletion at AfD. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:06, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - as per above. Nfitz (talk) 14:47, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - I'm not convinced that this is either that notable, nor actually making the news to the extent that ITN items generally are. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

ETA: And the article doesn't even say what was raided, by which police, in order to shut the thing down. This is absolutely not ready for ITN. I'm not convinced it's ready for WP. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:06, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose besides this being barely notable, the target article is 3 sentences long. Natg 19 (talk) 16:58, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Close This is not notable per NATG19 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:F965:A052:8324:6519 (talk) 17:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose lol this "article" is basically 2 sentences long. Look, maybe there would be the teensiest more basis if... y'know... the blurb wasn't also the entire article. jolielover♥talk 17:54, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Ben Roberts-Smith

Ben Roberts-Smith speaking at the 2015 National Flag Raising and Citizenship Ceremony

Article: Ben Roberts-Smith (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The High Court of Australia rejects Ben Roberts-Smith's final bid to overturn a civil judgement which found that he had committed murder and other war crimes while deployed to Afghanistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The High Court of Australia rejects Ben Roberts-Smith's final bid to overturn a civil judgement which found that he had committed war crimes.
News source(s): ABC News (Australia) The Sydney Morning Herald BBC UK AP News Ottumwa Courier Killeen Daily Herald Seattle Times Capital Brief
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by TarnishedPath (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Errantios (talk · give credit) and Rangasyd (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The allegations of war crimes and the resulting defamation action (labbeled the trial of the century by Australian media) brought by Roberts-Smith has had international coverage. The refusal by the high court, to hear the appeal, brings Roberts-Smith's avenues for appeal to an end. TarnishedPath^talk 14:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, good faith nom, but I feel this lacks any real lasting impact either in Australia or globally. Comment I feel the blurb is a bit too verbose. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as the status quo remains with this, there's not much of a story here. Masem (t) 14:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:03, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as seems to be a domestic story with little to no international coverage. Also per Masem nothing much actually happened. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:03, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

September 3

Portal:Current events/2025 September 3

September 3, 2025 (2025-09-03) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in the Sahel Boko Haram insurgency Nigeria's air force kills more than 15 Islamist fighters in an airstrike on hideouts in Borno's Sambisa forest, while troops separately kill 13 Boko Haram militants after repelling an ambush on a military convoy along the Gubio–Damasak road. (Reuters) Mali War Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal Muslimin spokesman Abou Houfeiza al-Bambari announces a blockade on all fuel trucks that enter Mali. (TRAC Terrorism) Gaza war Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip More than 70 Palestinians are killed by the Israeli military in the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Islamic State insurgency in Puntland Puntland counter-terrorism operations Puntland forces kill at least 15 ISIS fighters and capture key militant positions, including Ceelasha Burti-Cise and Af-ka Dharimood in the Baallade Valley, following a series of intense military operations in the broader Cal Miskaad Mountains of the Bari region, Puntland. (AllAfrica) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russia fires more than 500 drones and two dozen missiles at Ukraine overnight, targeting mostly western and central Ukraine and wounding at least five people, in response to the attacks, Poland scrambles its fighter jets and places ground-based air defenses and radar systems on maximum readiness. (Newsweek) (AP) Red Sea crisis The Houthis launch a ballistic missile at Israel, which is intercepted. (Reuters) Arts and culture The Nazi-looted painting Portrait of a Lady by Giuseppe Vittore Ghislandi is handed over to the Argentine justice system after being discovered on display in a private house in Mar del Plata, Argentina. (NOS) Business and economy 2025 United States–India diplomatic and trade crisis, Tariffs in the second Trump administration India approves cutting taxes on hundreds of consumer goods in response to new U.S. tariffs imposed on India last month. The overhaul cuts the consumption tax from a four-tier structure to a two-rate structure. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2025 Punjab, India floods At least 30 people are killed in flash floods caused by cloudbursts, landslides, and waterlogging across north India, including in Punjab, Odisha, and Jammu and Kashmir. Casualty numbers are expected to increase. (DW) (Reuters) Ascensor da Glória derailment Sixteen people are killed and 22 others are injured when the Ascensor da Glória funicular crashes into a building in Lisbon, Portugal. The Portuguese government declares a day of mourning for the following day in remembrance of those deceased. (Reuters) (BBC News) (NPR) Seven migrants are found dead on beaches after several boats from Algeria sink off the coast of Andalusia, Spain, as authorities rescue 26 people from one vessel and 38 from another and continue searching for additional victims. (AFP via Dawn) One person is killed, another is injured, and five others are reported missing during an accident on a Hanwha Ocean floating production storage and offloading ship at a shipyard in South Korea. (Upstream) A rescue team locates the burnt remains of the EastIndo passenger MBB/Kawasaki BK 117 helicopter that went missing on Monday in Kalimantan, Indonesia, on the island of Borneo and recovers one body. (AP) International relations 2025 China Victory Day Parade China holds a military parade in Beijing to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II. The event is attended by the leaders of about two dozen countries. (AP) Czech Republic–Germany relations Czech defence minister Jana Černochová announces that the Czech government signed a deal to pay Kč34 billion (US$1.6 billion) for 44 Leopard 2A8 tanks from Germany as part of its efforts to modernize the Armed Forces. (AP) Law and crime Odebrecht case A Peruvian court sentences former president Alejandro Toledo to 13 years and four months in prison for laundering S/18 million (US$5.1 million) in bribes from Brazilian construction company Odebrecht through offshore accounts to purchase and refinance properties in Lima, with the sentence to run concurrently with his earlier conviction for accepting S/124 million ($35 million) in kickbacks. (Reuters) Three people are killed and the perpetrator is injured in a mass stabbing in a pizza restaurant in Gwanak District, Seoul, South Korea. (The Japan Times) A Moroccan court sentences human rights activist Ibtissame Lachgar to 30 months in prison and a fine of DH50,000 (US$5,510) for blasphemy, with her lawyers stating they will appeal. (AFP via France 24) Politics and elections 2025 Jamaican general election Jamaicans vote to elect the 63 members of the Parliament using first-past-the-post voting. The two leading parties are the ruling Jamaica Labour Party and the opposition People's National Party. (Caribbean Life) 2025 Saint Helena general election Residents of Saint Helena, a British Overseas Territory, vote for the twelve members of the Legislative Council using plurality block voting. (MercoPress) 2025 Thai political crisis, 2025 Cambodian–Thai border crisis The ruling Pheu Thai Party of the acting government of Thailand moves to dissolve the parliament, setting up for a new election, after Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra was dismissed from office due to her phone call leak with Cambodia. (DW) Science and technology Scientists report that Mars has a solid inner core of iron and nickel about 613 kilometers in radius, surrounded by a liquid outer core, based on seismic data from NASA's InSight lander. (AP)

---

Jamaica election

Article: 2025 Jamaican general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Jamaica Labour Party, led by incumbent prime minister Andrew Holness (pictured), wins a third term in the general election. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Rushtheeditor (talk) 00:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose There's a "Incomplete list" template in "Results". ArionStar (talk) 01:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, the article is actually well cited but could do with more prose about the election and campaign. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:01, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support once the election results prose is expanded. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 01:38, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Support The article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Cheng Ching-mao

Article: Cheng Ching-mao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): National Dong Hwa University
Credits:

• Nominated by QuicoleJR (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Decasurger (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Taiwanese sinologist. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:12, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Ascensor da Glória derailment

Article: Ascensor da Glória derailment (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Ascensor da Glória (pictured), a funicular in Lisbon, Portugal, derails, killing 15 people and injuring 18 others. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 15 people are killed in a funicular derailment in Lisbon, Portugal.
News source(s): RTP
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Unusual accident in a rare catastrophic-occurrence country. ArionStar (talk) 20:57, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support Fifteen people killed on a tourist-attraction transport route in a major EU capital. There is a live ticker at the top of several English-language websites including the BBC. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:02, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Major EU capital? So not for a major African capital? Nfitz (talk) 01:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  • I probably shouldn't rise to the bait, but as the assumption seems particularly loaded, I'll answer. For the last 50 years, Lisbon hasn't been the capital of anyone from Africa, and I'm only describing what's in front of me. I'll give my opinion on an African tourist transport disaster when it happens, which I hope is not soon. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The Table Mountain Aerial Cableway is an internationally known route, and I'm pretty sure that a disaster on that would be covered around the world. Not to jinx anyone who's thinking of going to the Cape. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Wait - article is up for deletion. I don't have any strong feelings as to whether it should be posted or not. ^EF⁵ 21:05, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Every vote has been keep so far, so most likely going to be kept. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 21:08, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  • The deletion discussion has now been closed, with perhaps the most overwhelming support to keep I've ever seen. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:09, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support but no rush, it will definitely qualify but I would wait a bit for the article to develop as more information comes in. - Indefensible (talk) 21:18, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Of course. ArionStar (talk) 21:45, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support major event, lots of news, especially in the western world. Scuba 22:30, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support as a Lisboner per nom. Juwan (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. Article has all known details as of now, but no harm in waiting a few hours and seeing whether more details become known, so article quality is better (right now I think it's borderline on meeting WP:ITNQUALITY). Joseph2302 (talk) 22:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support, this is being covered extensively in US media. The article could be expanded but quality is sufficient for now. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment It seems a bit trivial to me, given how many things of greater magnitude and impact for those elsewhere - such as the 13 dead in an elevator accident in Africa a couple of years ago - Impala Platinum mine shaft accident. Probably should be there - but so should other stuff. Nfitz (talk) 01:42, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  Then nominate them. Impala Platinum mine shaft accident would not have met on article quality. - Indefensible (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support: per nom. ROY is WAR Talk! 02:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support - A public transport accident that is unusual, serious, and in the news. I absolutely believe that we should be covering similar incidents outside Europe and North America, but I echo what Indefensible says about article quality. One of the ways Wikipedia's systematic bias manifests is that articles from the rest of the world are often less complete, which makes them a harder sell for the main page in quality terms. But the response to that should be to improve those articles. This one should not be held back on that basis. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. I haven't included injuries though, because the Afghanistan story immediately below only mentions deaths.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

September 2

Portal:Current events/2025 September 2

September 2, 2025 (2025-09-02) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War on drugs, United States–Venezuela relations 2025 United States war on cartels 2025 United States strike on a Southern Caribbean boat The United States military conducts a precision strike and sinks a Venezuelan boat reportedly used by Tren de Aragua for smuggling drugs in the Caribbean Sea, killing 11 people. The Trump administration reports it currently has no plans of attacking the Venezuelan government. (CBS News) (USA Today) Gaza war Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip At least 105 Palestinians are killed during Israeli airstrikes and shootings across the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Balochistan At least fourteen people are killed and dozens of others are injured, including seven critically, in a suicide bombing at a political rally in Quetta, Balochistan, Pakistan. (Digital Journal) An attack near the Iran–Pakistan border in Balochistan, Pakistan, kills five people. (AFP via France 24) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Six soldiers and six militants are killed in a suicide attack on a paramilitary base in Bannu, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (The Hindu) Business and economy Economy of Brazil Brazil's Federal Senate approves a constitutional amendment that phases in court-ordered debt payments to fiscal target calculations beginning in 2027, initially counting 10% of the total and gradually reaching full inclusion over up to ten years. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents At least 60 people are killed and dozens rescued after an overloaded boat carrying more than 100 passengers strikes a submerged tree stump and capsizes on the Niger River near Borgu, Niger State, Nigeria, with search operations continuing for missing persons. (Reuters) International relations Belgium–Palestine relations, Belgium–Israel relations, International recognition of Palestine Belgian foreign minister Maxime Prévot announces that Belgium will conditionally recognize a Palestinian state at the upcoming United Nations General Assembly session upon the release of hostages and removal of Hamas, and impose sanctions on Israel, including bans on products from Israeli settlements and restrictions on certain public contracts. (Reuters) Law and crime Catholic Church sexual abuse cases A Bolivian court sentences two Spanish Jesuit priests to a year in prison for failing to report child sexual abuse by a fellow priest, whose posthumous diary revealed he abused at least 85 minors between 1972 and 2000. (Reuters) Prosecution of Syrian civil war criminals French judges issue arrest warrants for seven former senior Ba'athist Syrian officials, including former president Bashar al-Assad, on charges of complicity in war crimes and crimes against humanity for a 2012 rocket attack on a media center in Homs that killed journalists Marie Colvin and Rémi Ochlik and injured others. (Reuters) Five people are injured, including one critically and two seriously, in a mass stabbing attack at a hotel and a nearby street in Marseille, France. The perpetrator, a 35-year-old Tunisian, is fatally shot by police. (Le Monde) An Argentine court places the daughter of Nazi adviser Friedrich Kadgien and her husband under house arrest and accuses them of stealing the painting Portrait of a Lady, which had been missing since 1945. (AP) Politics and elections A Turkish court annuls the Istanbul provincial congress of the Republican People's Party over alleged procedural violations, dismissing local leaders including the Istanbul chair, and appoints an interim committee to oversee the branch. (AP) (Reuters)

---

RD: Moustapha Sall

Article: Moustapha Sall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rim Sport, Foot Africa
Credits:

• Nominated by Sahaib (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit), Robby.is.on (talk · give credit) and Sahaib (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mauritanian football manager Sahaib (talk) 20:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support, article looks good. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:58, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Patrick Hemingway

Article: Patrick Hemingway (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): McFadden, Robert D. (September 3, 2025). "Patrick Hemingway, Ernest's Devoted Second Son, Is Dead at 97". The New York Times. Retrieved September 3, 2025.
Credits:

• Nominated by Jlwoodwa (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 jlwoodwa (talk) 02:31, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2025 United States strike on a Southern Caribbean boat

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Article: 2025 United States strike on a Southern Caribbean boat (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Navy sinks (video) a reportedly drug-carrying boat operated by the Venezuela–based gang Tren de Aragua in the Southern Caribbean, killing eleven people. (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 23:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Drug vessels are intercepted/sunk all the time and they don't make ITN. Unless this leads to the great American war of 2025, it's pretty irrelevant globally qw3rty 23:53, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  All the time? Source? ArionStar (talk) 00:12, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Drug interceptions are one of the primary peacetime duties of the USCG. Though as far as I'm aware, they usually don't result in deaths. Curbon7 (talk) 00:41, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Wait If this wasn't a cartel vessel and turns out the US hit a civilian ship, as to start a larger conflict, that might be a reason to post, but there's no indication that anything has been massively escalated due to this. Masem (t) 00:22, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Also with only 1 paragraph of actual event information (ignoring the background), this is way to short to even consider now. Masem (t) 00:29, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Wait per Masem. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 05:43, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This is essentially a Truth Social post. The Venezualans say that the footage is false and it wouldn't be the first time that Trump has posted a fake video. For more reliable news about that gang war, see Appeals Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Venezuelans. Perhaps Trump posted the boat item to offset the defeat in court. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:46, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Could brew into a larger conflict (diplomatic/military) but strongly caution WP:NTRUMP here. Gotitbro (talk) 10:16, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now as this doesn't seem to be that big of a story and it's mostly gone out of the news rotation in the US. If this leads to a wider conflict I'm sure it can be considered but we shouldn't WP:CRYSTAL. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 12:41, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose per most above and WP:NTRUMP. Nothing's happened yet and it doesn't look like anything will come of this, and it's worth noting that Venezuela denied that this happened at all. Departure– (talk) 12:51, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Also, it's worth noting that it hasn't been confirmed the boat was operating for Tren de Aragua; the target article 2025 United States strike on Tren de Aragua boat is thus a non-neutral redirect to 2025 United States strike on a Southern Caribbean boat. Departure– (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

This isn't the right forum for extended discussion, but: is Southern Caribbean actually a real geographic term that should be in an article title? That article was created in November 2024, there is no map, and the sources don't even use the term; being largely background about countries in the ostensible region. 217.180.228.155 (talk) 13:59, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Southern Caribbean: BBC, Reuters, France24, CNN and more. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:27, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Wait/Oppose there are too many unanswered questions: who was on the boat? where was the boat? will there be diplomatic fallout? Right now, the article is merely "Trump says", which shouldn't be posted. 217.180.228.155 (talk) 14:05, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Info The article 2025 United States war on cartels was created. ArionStar (talk) 15:51, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

You're kidding. I'm going to AfD that. ^EF⁵ 15:56, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

This entire nomination explemifies why WP is not a newspaper. We currently have zero understanding of any long term impact, and yet we are rushing to create articles before that impact can even be formed. Masem (t) 16:35, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

I could spend my entire editing career cleaning up Venezuelan articles like this, and they'd still all be SYNTH, POV, BLP vios and UNDUE. There are now three useless articles on the topic. Thankfully, ITN didn't succumb. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:24, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:ROUTINE. This is everyday routine work for border and coast guard patrols especially on major trafficking routes in the Carribean; there is even a whole TV documentary series with a even a Dutch Caribbean spin off demonstrating just how routine these events are. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:50, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose unless it leads to something bigger. --FelineHerder (talk) 17:39, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

September 1

Portal:Current events/2025 September 1

September 1, 2025 (2025-09-01) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip, Gaza Strip famine, Gaza genocide The International Association of Genocide Scholars, an international non-partisan research organization on genocide and crimes against humanity, declares that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. (IAGS) (BBC News) (Reuters) At least four South Sudanese soldiers and ten militia members are killed in clashes near Nasir, Upper Nile, an area where earlier violence led to the detention of First Vice President Riek Machar. (Reuters) Business and economy Economy of New Zealand New Zealand prime minister Christopher Luxon announces that holders of investor residence visas may buy or build a single home valued above NZ$5 million (US$3.55 million), following changes to the visa rules previously preventing such investments. (Reuters) Economy of South Korea The South Korean trade ministry reports that semiconductor exports reached a record ₩21 trillion (US$15 billion) in August, up nearly one-third from last year, contributing to total monthly exports of ₩81 trillion ($58.4 billion). (AFP via Barron's) Disasters and accidents 2025 Afghanistan earthquake The toll from yesterday's earthquake in Jalalabad, Nangarhar province, Afghanistan, increases to at least 1,100 people killed and 3,500 others injured. (BNO News) (Reuters) An EastIndo passenger MBB/Kawasaki BK 117 helicopter goes missing with eight people on board in the Tanah Bumbu Regency, Indonesia. (ASN) Five people are killed when a Gilgit-Baltistan government helicopter crashes in Thor Valley, Chilas, Diamer District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. (Dawn) International relations Australia–Nauru relations Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese announces that Australia will pay Nauru to accept foreign-born criminals who are expelled from Australia following the signing of a memorandum by Nauruan president David Adeang. (AP) North Korea–South Korea relations The South Korean defense ministry announces that it has suspended the "Voice of Freedom" military radio broadcast to North Korea for the first time in 15 years as part of measures to reduce tensions between the two countries. (Reuters) Law and crime August 2025 Indonesian protests The Commission for Missing Persons and Victims of Violence reports that 20 people are missing across Bandung and Depok, West Java, and the Jakarta metropolitan area, Indonesia, following the protests. (AFP via France 24) Police storm into the campuses of Universitas Pasundan and Universitas Islam Bandung in West Java, firing tear gas at protesters. (IDN Times) Indonesia–Peru relations An Indonesian diplomat attached to the embassy in Lima, Peru, is shot dead by an unknown assailant. The Peruvian foreign ministry opens an investigation into the shooting as the country sees a rise in extortion and homicide. (AP) LGBTQ rights in Burkina Faso Burkina Faso passes a law criminalizing homosexuality, providing sentences of between two and five years in prison as well as fines. (France 24) An Argentine federal judge bars media outlets from publishing audio recordings made inside the presidential palace, which reportedly include conversations involving President Javier Milei's sister and chief of staff, Karina Milei, amid ongoing corruption allegations against the government. (Reuters) A Finnish court sentences Biafran activist Simon Ekpa to six years in prison for incitement, tax fraud, and terrorism, among other charges. (AP) Politics and elections 2026 Beninese presidential election Benin's ruling coalition, composed of the Progressive Union Renewal and the Republican Bloc, nominates finance minister Romuald Wadagni as their presidential candidate in the upcoming election. (Reuters) 2025 Guyanese general election Guyana votes to elect a new National Assembly and president, with polls favouring a second term for incumbent Irfaan Ali of the PPP/C. (The Guardian) Flood control projects controversy in the Philippines The Philippine Senate Blue Ribbon Committee orders the arrest of two contractors who failed to attend hearings on alleged corruption in flood control projects, as part of its probe into incomplete or substandard works awarded under President Bongbong Marcos's infrastructure program. (Gulf News) Ghanaian president John Mahama removes Chief Justice Gertrude Torkornoo from office following a committee report recommending her dismissal for misconduct, which Torkornoo denies. (Reuters)

---

(Ready) Guyanese election

Article: 2025 Guyanese general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ President of Guyana Irfaan Ali (pictured) wins a second term in the general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ President of Guyana Irfaan Ali is re-elected for a second term.
News source(s): Stabroek News, Caribbean Life
Credits:

• Nominated by Moscow Mule (talk · give credit)
• Created by RealVexelo (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Number 57 (talk · give credit), Azzamrahman (talk · give credit), Aréat (talk · give credit) and Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Moscow Mule (talk) 23:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Wait, this is ITNR so it will probably get posted eventually but quality is not good enough yet and there are still many sentences that need citations. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:09, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  It should be posted as a September 1 event. ArionStar (talk) 00:36, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Right. Done. Moscow Mule (talk) 01:45, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be September 3, User:ArionStar, as I believe that's when the first results were released. I believe that was the date of the voting. When I look at the last version of the article on September 2, and even the first version of the article on September 3, I don't see any indication of any results, let alone who won! Nfitz (talk) 02:04, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I didn’t get your point. ArionStar (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

My point, @ArionStar, is that he won the election on September 3rd; the first day any results were released. Nfitz (talk) 14:50, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree with Nfitz: the news is the outcome of the election, which was announced on 3 Sept. That's the date we should go by. Modest Genius ^talk 16:35, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

The election occurred on 1 September. ArionStar (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Support once the two CN tags are addressed. It's a relatively small country, at least there's decent prose in every section rather than just tables Kowal2701 (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support. The article could be better but does meet our minimum requirements. The results table is complete and there's prose on the outcome, albeit not much reaction. The recount affects only one constituency so won't change the overall outcome. Referencing seems sufficient; there's a single CN tag but it's not vital for the article and shouldn't detract from the rest. Good enough. Modest Genius ^talk 16:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support ArionStar (talk) 00:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Jimmy Bone

Article: Jimmy Bone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Robby.is.on (talk · give credit), Jmorrison230582 (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Scottish footballer and manager, decently sourced article Josey Wales ^Parley 20:34, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: George Raveling

Article: George Raveling (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hall of Fame college basketball coach. Needs a bit more work. Natg 19 (talk) 18:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Graham Greene

Article: Graham Greene (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety, The Canadian Press
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D045:9560:1877:344C (talk · give credit)
• Updated by EclecticEnnui (talk · give credit), Rusted AutoParts (talk · give credit), 98.170.164.88 (talk · give credit) and Monkeysoap (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:D045:9560:1877:344C (talk) 01:10, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Huge presence within the Canadian acting scene, especially in terms of Indigenous representation. I doubt it would be blurbable, but I am curious what other editors think on the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  The article is a far cry from even being ready for RD with the number of unsourced statements including the film and television appearances. Masem (t) 03:06, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  I might attempt to source some of the statements that are currently unsourced, but it depends on my free time tonight. Otherwise, the article is in poor shape at the moment.–Abebenjoe (talk) 07:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article is adequate. Lists of works do not normally need citations as they are self-documenting. See Randy Travis for a recent example at TFA. That article's discography has no footnotes but that didn't stop it being featured on the main page. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  That a wholly different project didn't catch them doesn't mean we shouldn't. And here, we're talking where the bulk of their appearances are in minor roles and one-offs, as opposed to a leading role, where it is more difficult to confirm from the primary source, so that's even a stronger reason to make sure those are all sourced. Masem (t) 12:09, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  For crying out loud, this is the most significant Indigenous actor. It was the most famous native person of the present era. Full stop. If he doesn't warrant a recent deaths slot, what does that say about your selection criteria? Is the point of this tab to inform people of recent notable deaths or is it to showcase the best sourced articles? Because if it's the latter then you should change the title of that tab.

  Nobody but pedantic losers cares if his appearance in some low budget Canadian tv show in the nineties isn't sourced. Claiming he was in reservation dogs or the last of us or whatever is a citation in and of itself, it doesn't need a link to some third party. Anyone who is skeptical of that can just watch the bloody show. That's how citations work.

  Get the article up there. Now. 216.181.0.114 (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  Any notable person can be in RD, but the article needs to be of quality to be featured on the main page, and that's what is at issue here. And unless we are documenting the specific episodes where he cameod, it's not sufficient to say "watch the primary source to verify", because no reader is expected to have to Comb through 100s of episodes to find that. Masem (t) 14:24, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  No combing is required – you just use a search engine. For example, the first TV role listed is as John Norton in Read All About It! (TV series). To verify this, one just plugs these names into a search engine like Google which immediately provides a link to the episode which one can easily view for free. This demonstrates that the article is accurate and that no fussy footnote is required. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:22, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  That is above and beyond the expectation that WP:V has for reader. We want to direct them find the source without having to do additional searches for the specific location in that source. (note, this is not the same as once they know the specific source, actually locating where they can see that source, that we don't require the source to be readily available) Masem (t) 16:27, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  The name of the TV show and the name of the role are demonstrably enough to enable a reader to find and verify the fact. Citing a third-party source which doesn't show the performance is not what the reader usually wants. Few such citations are actually used by readers and so they are mostly busywork and clutter. WP:V does not require citations for uncontroversial facts and featured articles don't require them. ITN does not require FA level quality and so we're good. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:43, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  Even taking that as a basis, we still require finer pointers to the direct source than saying "one episide" of a long running TV series. We don't cite a thousand page book for one fact without narrowing that (either by chapter or page). If we had actual episode numbers, maybe that might be better, but definitely not just saying "N episides"

  And for shows that have been lost to pop memory, cameo runs are clearly not uncontroversial since this allows for false additions. He was well known that I recognize a few of his appearances, but no way that the others can be easily checked in the way they are presented now. Hence why we need sources. Masem (t) 17:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  There was only one current comment about such roles on the talk page. An IP editor suggested that they appeared as Rosie's husband in North of 60. It was a simple matter to Google this and establish that the role had been played by another actor. What's required in such cases is fact-checking, not fiddling with footnotes. A footnote doesn't verify because there's no guarantee that it matches the article's claim. What's actually required is a critical eye and careful checking of the claims against the evidence that's out there. But little of this seems to get done at ITN. Just looking for footnotes is cargo cult or check-box behaviour – just going by superficial appearances without the underlying competence and comprehension of the content. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:02, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  We're not expecting a thorough source evaluation but that there are sources cited. I still look over to make sure none of the sources scream as unreliable (like if they used IMDB), but I'm not going to sit there and verify each one for ITN, on the basis of good faith that the sources were added to support the fact. But the absence of sources, or providing more narrower definition of a primary source (like specific episodes rather than "one episodes" in a long series) on BLP pages is a result of years of lazy approaches to most entertainers articles when BLP demands better. Masem (t) 04:02, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  So, even Masem isn't interested in actually reading such citations. They are pointless. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:04, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  @216.181.0.114: Him being Indigenous/native is not relevant, from randomly searching I was able to find several examples of Indigenous/native people who were featured on recent deaths in the last few years: Ningali Lawford (2019), Fred Sasakamoose (2020), David Gulpilil (2021), Sean Wainui (2021), Jack Charles (2022), Lowitja O'Donoghue (2024), Cathy Merrick (2024), Jonathan Joss (2025), Takutai Tarsh Kemp (2025), Shane Christie (2025). Sahaib (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose an individual nomination is not the place to upend years of settled consensus on citation of the filmography. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality per GCG. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality, expect to see arguments for blurbs if and when it's in better shape. Kingsif (talk) 23:38, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment The MOS:LISTOFWORKS guideline reads (emphasis added): Complete lists of works, appropriately sourced to reliable scholarship (WP:V), are encouraged ...—Bagumba (talk) 07:50, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  The MOS:FILMOGRAPHY guideline reads (emphasis added) "Vital information is title, year and, for actors, role; notes are optional." It goes on to provide an example in which the entries do not have citations. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:11, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  So was it a breach when a few months ago Robert Pattinson was today's featured article? Or was this fine as a TFA but if Pattinson should die any time soon (hoping this isn't the case), it would not be of appropriate quality for RD? Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:10, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Technically yes. While every link there is a blue link so the sourcing credit should be on the associated page, WP:V require pages be sourced as if standalone so they should have been included on the main bio page. Masem (t) 23:25, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

  Presumably the same is true then of Randy Travis from 1 Sept, Edward Drinker Cope from 28 July, Mariah Cary from 12 June, Cher from 20 May, and Ezra Pound from 23 May? Or is it just that RD is out of step with the rest of the project? Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:44, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose for now Regardless of what sort of citations are necessary for the filmography, an article w/4 failed verification tags isn’t in good enough shape to be posted. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 00:12, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  All of the failed verification tags have been fixed. Much of the filmography has been cited, but it's tedious. If anyone else is willing to help out with the filmography I think we can get this over the line. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 05:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  98.170.164.88 seems to be just about the only editor to have added these citations. The other editors claiming that this is important have done nothing about it, of course. Not a single entry seems to have been removed as incorrect; everything is checking out, as one would expect. You see, in the meantime, while ITN is doing its usual jobsworth act, this has been the top read article on Wikipedia for the last two days with over a million readers – more than all the ITN entries put together. There have been many eyes on this article and they would say something if there was actually a problem that needed fixing. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:03, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

  There was at least one error, but it wasn't anything worth writing home about. It turns out that his one-off character on L.A. Law was actually called David Wauneka, not Dan Wauneka.

  The {{failed verification}} tags were due to reference names being mixed up. I think someone was using VisualEditor and somehow entered <ref name=":3" /> in multiple places where they meant to enter <ref name=":2" />. I don't know exactly how that works because I prefer the source editor. In the process of dealing with the reference mixups I also detected a possible case of citogenesis.

  In my opinion, the sourcing should now be good enough to post. There are a few character names I didn't cite, but that's just because the sources available are frowned upon (WordPress/IMDB/Wikia and similar), not because the names are wrong. If anyone wants me to just add those sources despite my reluctance, I'd be willing to do so. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: David Warburton

Article: David Warburton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News The Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by ItsShandog (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gilgongo (talk · give credit) and Giuliotf (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Tory MP ItsShandog (talk) 16:26, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support article is fine. Sahaib (talk) 19:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:39, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Source for DOB is UK Who's Who, which is generally unreliable. Is there a more reliable source for his DOB? Curbon7 (talk) 23:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

  It's now cited to The Times. Bremps... 02:22, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Meets requirements. Moscow Mule (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Dhimitër Anagnosti

Article: Dhimitër Anagnosti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Balkanweb.com, Gazeta Tema
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D10A:B35:3FF6:567 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Adelberta (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Albanian film director. 240F:7A:6253:1:D10A:B35:3FF6:567 (talk) 16:10, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Joe Bugner

Article: Joe Bugner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky Sports Boxing Scene
Credits:

• Nominated by ItsShandog (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Deathisallaroundus (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former European, British, and Commonwealth heavyweight champion who Fought Muhammad Ali twice ItsShandog (talk) 12:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Not ready. The article currently has 21 cn tags, a lot of referencing needs to be done before it can be ready. ErktheBerserker (talk) 14:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

August 31

Portal:Current events/2025 August 31

August 31, 2025 (2025-08-31) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war 2025 Gaza City offensive At least 88 Palestinians are killed by the Israeli military as Israel continues its heavy bombardment of Gaza. (Financial Times) Israeli defence minister Israel Katz announces that the Israeli military killed Hamas spokesperson Abu Obaida in an airstrike on Gaza City yesterday. (BBC News) Sudanese civil war Darfur campaign At least seven people are killed and 71 others are injured in shelling by the Rapid Support Forces in Al-Fashir, North Darfur, Sudan. (AFP via Barron's) Guyana–Venezuela territorial dispute The Guyanese military report that Venezuelan gunfire targeted a patrol boat escorting election materials on the Cuyuní River in the disputed Essequibo region. (AFP via TRT World) Yemeni civil war The Houthis raid United Nations offices in Sanaa, Yemen, and detain at least eleven UN personnel. (The Times of Israel) Arts and culture The original 1920s manuscripts of The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek, one of the most well-known works of Czech literature, are rediscovered by the Czech Museum of Literature. (NOS) (Radio Prague International) Disasters and accidents 2025 Afghanistan earthquake At least 610 people are killed and 1,300 others are injured when a Mw 6.0 earthquake strikes Jalalabad, Nangarhar province, Afghanistan. (TRT World) (The Times) 2025 Tarasin landslide Over 1,000 people are killed when a landslide destroys a village in the Marrah Mountains area of western Sudan. (CNN) Two people are killed and eight Kenyan police officers are injured in an accident involving two armored vehicles in the Port-au-Prince Arrondissement, Haiti. (AP) International relations Armenia–Pakistan relations Armenia and Pakistan agree to establish diplomatic relations on the sidelines of the 2025 Tianjin SCO summit. (Dawn) Norway–United Kingdom relations Norway agrees to purchase at least five new British-made anti-submarine Type 26 frigates for the Royal Norwegian Navy in a £10 billion (US$13.5 billion) deal. The ships will be built by a consortium of companies led by BAE Systems. (AP) Law and crime August 2025 Indonesian protests Mobs loot the houses of Indonesian finance minister Sri Mulyani and parliament member Nafa Urbach. (Jakarta Globe) In a press conference, President Prabowo agrees to revoke the allowance for parliament members and put moratoriums to their foreign trips. (CNA) A university student dies one day after participating in a protest in Yogyakarta one day prior, after he was allegedly separated from other protestors and assaulted by police. (Kompas) Deportation in the second Trump administration United States judge Sparkle L. Sooknanan of the District of Columbia issues an injunction halting the deportation of Guatemalan unaccompanied minors after advocacy groups filed an emergency appeal against the Trump administration's plan to repatriate them. (Reuters) Politics and elections Gaza war Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip The Global Sumud Flotilla, the largest civilian-led maritime convoy, departs from four cities in the Mediterranean and heads towards Gaza to attempt to break the Israeli blockade, carrying humanitarian aid and activist Greta Thunberg and actors Mark Ruffalo and Gustaf Skarsgård, among others. (Al Jazeera) (CBS News) Flood control projects controversy in the Philippines Philippine public works secretary Manuel Bonoan resigns over the flood control controversy, while President Bongbong Marcos appoints transportation secretary Vince Dizon as Bonoan's replacement. (Philippine Daily Inquirer)

---

(Posted) RD: Arnoldo Kraus

Article: Arnoldo Kraus (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Pais
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Just created, fully sourced. Mooonswimmer 03:32, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support seems fine. Though the sources state he died at the age of 73 not 74 (as currently stated). Sahaib (talk) 08:13, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. Curbon7 (talk) 09:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

2025 Tarasin landslide

Article: 2025 Tarasin landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A landslide destroys the village of Tarasin in Sudan, killing more than 1,000 people. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, CNN, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Trepang2 (talk · give credit)

 The article doesn't look ready yet, but the scope of the disaster is significant enough to post it on ITN eventually. Trepang2 (talk) 07:12, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The details seem uncertain as the place is so remote and rugged. For example, the BBC gives a death toll of 370 from the UN, rather than the 1,000 figure given by the rebel group. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:51, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support in principle but hold off for as this is barely more than a stub. An entire village wiped with a death toll of 370–1000, yes this is notable for ITN. Gotitbro (talk) 11:03, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Wait for article quality. While significant, I think it's a bit early to judge on the article given its age and current length of the article. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 14:29, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability as obvious, but oppose on quality as the article is still underdeveloped. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:05, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• I know there isn't going to be much info on this due to the location, but I have to oppose on quality per the others. Support on significance.

WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Support on notability. ArionStar (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Support on notability but oppose on quality as the article needs to be expanded. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 18:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

support as per the AFG quake (Although that one should have minimum deaths).2A00:F3C:4C6C:0:2119:EFDF:5F7B:B354 (talk) 22:37, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Support on notability, oppose on quality per above V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 22:50, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Even if we go with just the confirmed 370 deaths, that's a major loss of life. The article is short but decently referenced and does meet our minimum requirements for ITN. Yes it would be nice to have more information, but that's not a big enough problem to hold up posting. Modest Genius ^talk 18:17, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Clearly important, but the death toll is up in the air right now. Let's wait for the dust to settle. Bremps... 13:56, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Waldemar Espinoza Soriano

Article: Waldemar Espinoza Soriano (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Infobae
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Peruvian academic Mooonswimmer 15:24, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Charles Bierbauer

Article: Charles Bierbauer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D045:9560:1877:344C (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former correspondent for CNN. 240F:7A:6253:1:D045:9560:1877:344C (talk) 02:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

RD: Priya Marathe

Article: Priya Marathe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Marathi actress article prose enough to post QalasQalas (talk) 20:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Afghanistan earthquake

Article: 2025 Afghanistan earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude-6.0 earthquake strikes Afghanistan, killing over 620 people and injuring more than 1,500 others. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 22:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Strong support. Entire villages destroyed with the death toll possibly in the hundreds. The number of casualties is already 135, including 20 fatalities. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 01:03, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

It’s not a good year in Afghanistan. ArionStar (talk) 01:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

I don’t think any year since 2000 has been good for the Middle East. ^EF⁵ 01:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Jordan seems stable. But we added tragic blurb about Iran, Iraq, Syria, Israel and Palestine over the years.ArionStar (talk) 01:41, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Jordan has been involved in at least 3 different wars since 2000 and the 2005 Amman bombings happened in that timeframe, so even they aren’t totally stable. Anyways, that’s aside the point. ^EF⁵ 02:39, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps, but Afghanistan isn't in the Middle East! Gotitbro (talk) 22:33, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose till death toll rises. I hate to invoke if it bleeds, it leads, but 20 deaths simply isn’t enough when compared to other earthquakes posted. ^EF⁵ 01:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

I see the death tlll has risen to 250, but that claim is supported by a TRT World article and given its neutrality has been questioned before I’m not comfortable supporting till a better citation is found. ^EF⁵ 02:35, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

BNO News reported it. Anadolu Agency reported that the number 250 was told to them by the Information Ministry (the post). Bloxzge 025 (talk) 02:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Iirc Anadolu Agency is an unreliable source as it is a state-run propaganda machine, and BNO got the number from TRT. Neither are reliable. ^EF⁵ 03:03, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

A Pakistani official just said over 300 people died. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 03:37, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Edit: NBC News is now reporting Taliban officials confirmed the 250 number. Source. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 03:59, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Support, quality looks good and it's obviously a very major earthquake in a war-torn country. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 02:39, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support: per all support arguments. An major earthquake. ROY is WAR Talk! 03:13, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support due to number of deaths. Sahaib (talk) 04:09, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support on significance, I just find the section on "techtonic setting" seemingly overweighing the rest of the information on the page, and am surprised we don't have any general articles on the history and reasonings of earthquakes in Afghanistan or other parts of the Middle East for that matter. (We have articles on individual tectonic plates but that doesn't say much there either). Not an issue for posting but just something to think about for general improvement. (There's a trend that to bolster the quality of an event article that a large background section is added. That's not really needed here as the rescue and recovery in the next few days will readily round that out). Masem (t) 04:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Support Per all above, high death count Hungry403 (talk) 04:52, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 04:55, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

  Really, that quick? It’s only been a few hours. ^EF⁵ 04:59, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

  Well, because the consensus is fast the majority is support and one oppose only. ROY is WAR Talk! 08:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

  The goal of ITNC isn’t to speed-post nominations, it’s to attain consensus. I’d argue that this was posted too soon to accurately garner that. ^EF⁵ 08:35, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

  Six hours with the only concern being raised was the low death toll at when it was 20, but had been raised to 250 by the time it was posted, seems like an appropriate SNOW for posting. Quakes with that large of an impact always have been posted, outside of quality issues. Masem (t) 12:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

  It's news everywhere. ArionStar (talk) 01:15, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting support - Similar to the June 2022 Afghanistan earthquake and the 2023 Herat earthquake (although Herat was a sequence). This seems to happen once every couple years that a random crustal shallow fault goes off in the area, produces a ~M6, and without fail kills hundreds to thousands. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 05:23, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support - This is currently the leading BBC News world headline, and is also plainly a serious and newsworthy event on its own merits. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting support - Significant casualty toll, large regional impact in the affected country. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:02, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support per news sources. This is very impactful for their country, and this might be the deadliest disaster ever in 2025 in Afghanistan. Fabvill (Talk to me!) 15:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

August 30

Portal:Current events/2025 August 30

August 30, 2025 (2025-08-30) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis Israeli attacks on Yemen 28 August 2025 Israeli attacks on Yemen The Houthis confirm the death of Prime Minister Ahmed al-Rahawi and an unspecified number of ministers from an Israeli airstrike two days earlier. (AP) Arts and culture Archaeologists discover 40 ancient tombs dating back to at least 2,300 years ago at the Mosul Dam reservoir in Dohuk Governorate in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, following lowered water levels from a drought. (Arab News) (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Fourteen people are killed and three others are critically injured in a head-on collision between a police van and a prison bus outside of Mariental, Namibia. (BBC News) Three people are killed and 103 others are injured when a train derails between Alexandria and Matrouh Governorate, Egypt. (The National News) (BBC News) International relations Colombia–Israel relations, Diplomatic impact of the Gaza war, List of sanctions involving Israel The Colombian commerce ministry officializes a complete export ban of coal to Israel to prevent further atrocities in the Gaza Strip. (Colombia Presidency) Law and crime 2025 Indonesian protests August 2025 Indonesian protests Unrest in Indonesia, following a government truck killing a 21-year-old, continues as a mob loots the houses of parliament members Ahmad Sahroni, Eko Patrio and Uya Kuya. (Jawa Pos) (Reuters) Four people are killed amid spreading protests in Indonesia, including three government workers who jumped from a building on fire and one who was attacked by a crowd. (The New York Times) Assassination of Andriy Parubiy Former speaker of the Ukrainian parliament Andriy Parubiy is assassinated by an unknown gunman in Lviv, Lviv Oblast, Ukraine. A manhunt is underway for the suspect. (BBC News) A man drives a car into a crowd outside a bar in Évreux, France, after a dispute, killing one person and injuring five others, including two critically. (The Guardian) Nicaraguan opposition groups report that attorney Carlos Cárdenas, arrested on August 15 during police operations against government critics, has died in state custody, marking the fifth such death of a detainee since 2019. (Reuters) Politics and elections Sudanese civil war Hemedti, leader of the Rapid Support Forces (RSF), is sworn in as head of a parallel government in Nyala, South Darfur, Sudan, where the RSF has established a presidential council and prime minister while continuing its conflict with the Sudanese army. (Reuters)

---

(Posted) RD: Klaus Thunemann

Article: Klaus Thunemann (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hochschule für Musik Hanns Eisler Berlin
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German bassoonist, first orchestra (NDR) as its youngest player, then also solo and chamber, then teaching, from 1978 for decades, taking new posts in Berlin and Madrid in 2008. One of the most influential bassoonists of his time. - Death known on 30 August. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support 2794 characters (452 words) "readable prose size" and sourced. Grimes2 18:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. Curbon7 (talk) 03:49, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

RD/Blurb: Assassination of Abu Obaida

Articles: Assassination of Abu Obaida (talk · history · tag) and Abu Obaida (Hamas) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Hamas spokesperson Abu Obaida is assassinated in Gaza, Palestine. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Targeted strikes by the Israeli Air Force killed Hamas spokesperson Abu Obaida and several civilians
News source(s): WP BBC WSJ
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ddellas (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Fair to update but ongoing, remember July 2024 Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh was posted. QalasQalas (talk) 11:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Of all the horror being unleashed in Gaza as I type this, and you find this to be noteworthy news? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:09, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose covered by ongoing. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:20, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Alsoriano97, I know and I told you even though it was ongoing. QalasQalas (talk) 12:45, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb (I even question the need for the separate assassination article given the short size of the bio one. Oppose RD as there's one significant paragraph that is unsourced. Masem (t) 13:00, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
  • Support RD as the unsourced statement appears to have been removed. Masem (t) 13:27, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Alternative post Abu Obaida (Hamas) to RD, as that is a biographical article that meets WP:ITNQUALITY. Oppose posting this event article as blurb, and makes no sense to post the event article to RD rather than the biography article. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:06, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD – Notable individual, article is in good shape. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 13:16, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD not notable enough for a blurb - maybe the leader, but he was just a spokesperson. However, RD could work. jolielover♥talk 13:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, Oppose blurb Article is in fine shape, but this isn’t comparable to Haniyeh in the slightest - this guy was just a spokesman, not a leader of any note. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:34, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb Article quality is sufficient, but he isn't nearly important enough to warrant a blurb. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:16, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Covered by ongoing. ArionStar (talk) 15:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose blurb, support RD For comparison, in terms of importance, this isn't even Hamas' Karoline Leavitt. This is Hamas' Kingsley Wilson. The article itself has stringy paragraphs, not ideal but not a showstopper for RD. Bremps... 17:08, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

strong oppose the headline reads: "Hamas spokesman Abu Obeida killed in Gaza, Israel says". wait till hamas confirms it. They do confirm losses and israel also exaggerates.2A00:F3C:4C6C:0:2119:EFDF:5F7B:B354 (talk) 22:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Assassination of Andriy Parubiy

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

Articles: Assassination of Andriy Parubiy (talk · history · tag) and Andriy Parubiy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ former Chairman of the Ukrainian Parliament Andriy Parubiy, was assassinated in Lviv, Ukraine.
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ddellas (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Now is ongoing but don't forget article is good enough of posting ITNRD. QalasQalas (talk) 10:34, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Support blurb. I think some could choose that this is under this would be under the Russo-Ukrainian war (as it seems quite likely the assassin was a Russian separatist at the bare minimum) however I think this is still significant enough to get a blurb. 24.77.127.72 (talk) 11:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose covered by ongoing and already posted in RD. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Alsor. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:37, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose, as Alsor wrote, this is already covered by ongoing, I also agree with what Royiswariii wrote in the RD nom. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Already posted in RD. Grimes2 17:32, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - ongoing. Not a particularly high-profile politician, serving only as a member of parliament since the Russian invasion. Nfitz (talk) 21:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per others above (ongoing etc.), but this didn't need to be nominated separately when we had a nom for the same below. Gotitbro (talk) 22:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Lee Roy Jordan

Article: Lee Roy Jordan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former NFL player, needs a little bit more work. Natg 19 (talk) 20:47, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose more citations needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:10, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
  • Time for a re-review? --PFHLai (talk) 00:20, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Have worked to cleanup the article. Natg 19 (talk) 00:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has been sufficiently improved. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:13, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Missing source for DOB. Curbon7 (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Andriy Parubiy

Article: Andriy Parubiy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian Kyiv Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by 5.57.243.123 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yulia Romero (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former chairman/speaker of the Verkhovna Rada, the Ukrainian parliament. Article currently is being heavily updated. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 10:34, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Maybe, blurb? Андрій ЯЧ (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

No. There is no or minor impact only in the Ukraine or in the world. Editors would likely to oppose on blurb and RD will be fine. ROY is WAR Talk! 13:38, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

*Not ready. His DoB and PoB is unsourced. The article's education section is entirely unsourced. Two sentences remain unsourced in the article's career section. The article also has an orange tag. There is no mention of his political activities after his tenure as chairman of the Verkhovna Rada ended in 2019 (from 2019 until 2025). The article seems fine otherwise, just not ready yet in this state.

ErktheBerserker (talk) 15:48, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Ready. The concerns I raised have been addressed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ErktheBerserker (talk • contribs) 10:55, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Assassination of Andriy Parubiy Андрій ЯЧ (talk) 09:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD Article ok. No cn. Grimes2 14:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. Curbon7 (talk) 10:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

August 29

Portal:Current events/2025 August 29

August 29, 2025 (2025-08-29) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Gaza war hostage crisis Israel recovers the bodies of two hostages in Gaza, one of whom is identified as Elan Weiss, who was killed in the October 7 attacks. (CNN) Disasters and accidents A severe weather system in Greater Poland causes heavy rainfall, thunderstorms, and strong winds, triggering the evacuation of the Bałtyk office building in Poznań due to flooding. A tornado later forms in the vicinty of Gniezno. No injuries are reported. (TVP Info) International relations Diplomatic impact of the Gaza war, Israel–Turkey relations Turkey closes its airspace to Israeli government aircraft and maintains a ban on trade and maritime traffic with Israel in response to the Gaza war. (AP) Eightieth session of the United Nations General Assembly, Palestine–United States relations, Visa policy of the United States United States secretary of state Marco Rubio blocks Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas and 80 other officials from attending the United Nations General Assembly in New York City in September by revoking their previously-valid travel visas. (Sky News) (PBS) Law and crime 2024 South Korean martial law crisis South Korean special prosecutors indict former prime minister Han Duck-soo without detention on charges of abetting the imposition of martial law on December 3, 2024, preparation of false public documents and perjury for falsely testifying that he had not been aware of the martial law declaration. (Kyodo News) Austria and Russian intelligence Austrian prosecutors indict former intelligence officer Egisto Ott on charges of espionage, abuse of office, and providing sensitive information to fugitive Wirecard executive Jan Marsalek and Russian intelligence services. (AP) The English Court of Appeal rules that the government may continue housing asylum seekers in a hotel in Epping, Essex, overturning a previous order to relocate them. (The New York Times) Former South Korean first lady Kim Keon Hee is indicted on bribery and other charges related to a wider investigation into her and her husband, former president Yoon Suk Yeol. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2025 Indonesian protests August 2025 Indonesian protests At least three people are killed and four others are injured after protesters set fire to the Regional House of Representatives building in Makassar, South Sulawesi, Indonesia. (AFP via RNZ) 2025 Philippine House of Representatives elections The Philippine Commission on Elections denies the right-wing Duterte Youth's motion to reconsider the cancellation of their party-list registration and disqualifies them from holding their three seats in the House of Representatives. However, Duterte Youth may still appeal to the Supreme Court. (ABS-CBN News) 2025 Samoan general election Samoans are called in a snap election to elect the members of the Legislative Assembly. (Reuters) 2025 Thai political crisis The Thai Constitutional Court removes Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra from office for ethical misconduct over leaked phone calls she had with former Cambodian prime minister Hun Sen. (Al Jazeera) (BBC News)

---

(Posted) RD: Robert Diouf

Article: Robert Diouf (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Soleil
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:38, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:45, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support article is sourced well. Sahaib (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 00:16, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Zhanna Kolodub

Article: Zhanna Kolodub (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): vechirniy.kyiv.ua
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ukrainian composer, pianist and academic teacher, all for 50+ years. - There was an article but it had only a few and only Ukrainian sources, and much of it was copied from ref Libby. - Sorry, that took some time. - Death known on 29 August. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:46, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support article is ok. Sahaib (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Curbon7 (talk) 22:42, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Samoan general election

Article: 2025 Samoan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Samoa United in Faith wins an absolute majority in the 2025 Samoan general election, while Prime Minister Fiamē Naomi Mataʻafa's Samoa Uniting Party is reduced to three seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Samoa United in Faith wins an absolute majority in the 2025 Samoan general election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Faʻatuatua i le Atua Samoa ua Tasi, led by Laʻauli Leuatea Schmidt (pictured), wins the Samoan general election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The FAST party, led by Laʻauli Leuatea Schmidt (pictured), wins the Samoan general election.
News source(s): Samoa Observer, Tagata Pasifika
Credits:

• Nominated by PtolemyXV (talk · give credit)
• Updated by N Panama 84534 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Notable as a national election that will almost certainly result in a change in leadership. Results are provisional; could potentially post in a few days when they're finalised. PtolemyXV (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Support once results are posted. I also think the article should be re-nominated once that happens. Currently, the article is in great shape for an election of which the results haven't been announced. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 14:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Wait as there are 17 constituencies with razor-thin margins, some in the single digits. Some of these seats could change hands once the final count is complete, which will not be until 5 September. Although FAST is in the lead, there is still a possibility that the party may not secure an outright majority. Once the final results are in, we can post. Also, per WP:COMMONNAME, FAST is more commonly referred to by its Samoan name, Faʻatuatua i le Atua Samoa ua Tasi. It is rarely referred to as Samoa United in Faith. Cheers, N Panama 84534 🏝️🥥 02:06, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Change to withdraw, article can be renominated once the final count is complete. This nomination risks being closed for becoming stale. N Panama 84534 🏝️🥥 11:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Support. The results table has now been filled out and the article seems to be in great shape. Modest Genius ^talk 18:19, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support ArionStar (talk) 18:50, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Support article is good to go. Sahaib (talk) 20:57, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Spencer^T•C 13:08, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rodion Shchedrin

Article: Rodion Shchedrin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gramophone
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Leading classical composer of the Soviet Union, but then also for decades leader for new music in Russia, known for ballets such as Carmen Suite and Anna Karenina, because his wife was a ballerina of the Bolshoi Theatre, many commissions from the United States. The article was poor and tagged for multiple issues. It could still grow but at least I think that it's referenced now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Thorough sourcing and adequate content, as noted. Good work! Jusdafax (talk) 03:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Stout work by Gerda and Grimes2. Moscow Mule (talk) 13:48, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Composer with a long and notable career. Article seems to be in good shape. NeoGaze (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support: Nice work! Indeed to credit to Greda Arendt and Grimes2 for their work. ROY is WAR Talk! 15:35, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support cool article. Sahaib (talk) 18:05, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Excellent work! Curbon7 (talk) 22:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) August 2025 Indonesian protests

Article: August 2025 Indonesian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests in Indonesia occured over a housing allowance hike for parliament members and the death of a motorcycle taxi driver. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Protests in Indonesia erupt over increased benefits and salaries given to parliament members.
News source(s): New York Times, ABC, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)
• Created by Udaradingin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Udaradingin (talk · give credit) and Tri Ardiansyah (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support Credible sources and it is a notable event, just like the previous (edit: 2025 Indonesian protests) that me and other editors had successfully nominated. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 11:15, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Strongly support. I agree with the above-mentioned reasons. Udaradingin (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - although I’ve already seen the video of the guy getting run over, I wouldn’t say a few thousand protestors is significant enough to blurb from past shot-down noms - per Bremps. If we aren't going to post protests with 3 million participants, why on Earth would we post one with "a few thousand"? ^EF⁵ 11:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support due to hundreds of arrests. Similar to the 2024 United Kingdom riots which was posted. Sahaib (talk) 12:30, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support have an impact and similar to 2024 United Kingdom riots. ROY is WAR Talk! 13:10, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Info 2025 Indonesian protests was posted in March. ArionStar (talk) 15:13, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  These are a completely separate event from those that occurred in March. And a reminder that per our guidelines, we try to not to justify posting or not posting due to posting or not posting something similar. Masem (t) 15:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  Not justifying, just informing. ArionStar (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support main page worthy Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:27, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Added altblurb. 5.57.243.123 (talk) 15:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support Well formatted article with good coverage and media. This is of course, an important event as well. NewishIdeas (talk) 16:41, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Additional comment They have burned multiple Transjakarta bus shelters in Jakarta and the South Sulawesi Regional House of Representative office building in Makassar over the last 4-5 hours as I am writing this. You may add these info to the altblurb if a credible and verified english language news article write about this. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 17:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

 Done It was added in two separate sections. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The protests are tens of thousands strong, but No Kings reached five million and wasn't posted. (And No Kings didn't create lasting change.) Barring a major escalation past what has already been seen (sustained protest, a Tiananmen-style incident, a revolution, etc.) I would oppose this appearing. Bremps... 17:15, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Citing Masem above: "we try to not to justify posting or not posting due to posting or not posting something similar", but assuming that's not a problem, I believe that No Kings is mostly spontaneous, peaceful, and had no clear goals or escalation? (Rather than trying to reach a goal, it's more of a movement to portray this guy as a "king") This one's the opposite of the No Kings protest with the chaos that ensued. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:20, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

@Bremps, I would like to point out that in my previous comment above yours directly, an entire local government office was burned. Here is a new English news source for that incident: https://voi.id/en/a/510126

If you don’t trust that, here is one from a credible local Indonesian news source, but please use a translator service to read it: https://news.detik.com/berita/d-8086836/kebakaran-gedung-dprd-makassar-1-orang-tewas-usai-terjebak-di-lantai-4/amp

This is not comparable to the No Kings protests which definitely was not as violent as this. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 17:35, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Acknowledged, but I would like to note that political arsons are more common than suggested. This year, the New Mexico GOP's HQ was burned, an ICE office was burned, and the Pennsylvania Governor's residence was burned in the US alone. (Not to mention the national legislature arsons in Liberia and Georgia last year.) Bremps... 18:54, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

If you want to count solely by the number, in just a single day more than a dozen of official parliament residence, buildings, and police offices were torched by the mobs all across the country simultaneously. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:53, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support ask any Indonesian and this is all they're talking about, the post-protest riots anyway. On that note, two further deaths occurred due to the protests (sorta). Juxlos (talk) 17:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - First I’ve heard of this, so I looked at my international headlines but sources like BBC, Times of India, Le Monde and The Japan Times don’t have it on their front page. It’s a local event, looks like to me. No lasting impact. Jusdafax (talk) 18:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  False Reasoning

  Your headline sources: BBC, Also BBC, Times of India, The Japan Times (3/4 of your source reported this event, with one of them reporting it two times)

  Other sources: ABC, The Guardian, Al-Jazeera, Reuters,The New York Times, DW, The Straits Times

  (Edit: removed previous personal attack comment, I apologize) SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

I strongly suggest reading WP:NPA, WP:AGF, and striking the The standard for wikipedia editors are so low portion of your comment. ^EF⁵ 19:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Some thoughts. These are the mainpages of the news outlets by the time I was writing this comment: CNA, Deutsche Welle, AP News, Reuters, Al Jazeera, BBC. And per Masem - defining how new outlets are counted as a international headlines are discriminative - most of them cater to a different audience (for example one of the news outlets you mentioned has a mainpage consisted of only Trump-and-Musk glazing]. And regarding impact - don't you think impacts are too early to think about? We've posted accidents here solely due to the high body count, with the government not even moving an inch to get things right in the future. Does that count as something that's not (yet to be) impactful? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 19:10, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

I agree and would like to apologize for the “low standard” comment that is very subjective. We can disagree on nomination procedure, but my comment about the standard was out of line and was made during the heat of the moment.

That said, I still stand with my statement that “not first page result = not notable” comment, as it is still covered by multiple reliable sources and still is a massive event, just like the protests in Turkey, Georgia, and Serbia earlier this year, which was also nominated. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 05:12, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Also, just as some editors below also commented, news result and therefore notability is very subjective and can be different for every person, depending on their IP location. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 05:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Seriously advice Symphony here to retract/strike the WP:PERSONALATTACK. Remember Wikipedia:Comment on content, not on the contributor and in this case Jusdafax's comment was clearly made in good faith. Please be more careful in the future. Gotitbro (talk) 05:37, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

We have zero requirement for news to be on the front page, and even discourage that as a merit given how news sites will deliver different content based on geolocation and other factors. Masem (t) 19:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

So far the arguments from both sides are 1) Support: impactful, similar to previously posted protests, credible sources, main page worthy, talking point of almost all Indonesians 2) Oppose: no impact, previous protests with more protesters aren't posted, no mentions on headlines of international news outlets. Hope this is steelmanning. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 19:15, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

If an uninvolved admin would be so kind to give their own assesment on the current state of discussion I'd be very grateful ---- Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 19:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• My request that the personal attack against me be struck was removed without my consent, perhaps inadvertently. I again ask that the personal attack be struck, per WP:NPA. Jusdafax (talk) 19:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, seems to have been an edit conflict. Sorry for removing it. ^EF⁵ 19:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

No worries, but this situation with the personal attack should be resolved. Jusdafax (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Already removed, apologies @Jusdafax SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 06:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

A couple observations: First, removing the comment was not what I had requested. I had asked that it be struck. Removing the personal attack makes it difficult to assess what was being objected to. Second, you leave standing a bolded False Reasoning heading, implying as a fact either that I’m lying or mentally incompetent. I’d like to request you to strike that, not delete it. And lastly, your personal attack was egregious, so much so that other editors took note and also objected. Only then was your attack removed by you and your minimal apology tendered, which frankly, I find insufficient, but will accept. My advice is to walk away from the keyboard when you feel the urge to make a personal attack. You’ll be doing yourself a favor. Best wishes, Jusdafax (talk) 03:37, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support per significance and precedent. Adding to Jeromi Mikhael's reasoning to Jusdafax. The criterion is "covered in multiple reliable sources", not "headline on every site." Reuters, AP, Bloomberg, FT, Al Jazeera, DW, Straits Times, The Guardian, SCMP, Euronews, and ABC have all run substantive pieces on the protests. That’s well beyond WP:RS sufficiency. "Main page prominence" is an editorial decision by each outlet; ITN doesn’t outsource notability to News homepage algorithm. While whether raw numbers are smaller or not than "No Kings," ITN evaluates on news value, not headcount alone. Here we already have (a) a civilian death on camera, (b) arrests of seven officers, (c) a presidential investigation order, (d) the burning of local legislatures, (e) measurable economic shock (rupiah/equity drop + National Bank intervention), and (f) international security alerts, That’s a qualitatively higher threshold than a large but uneventful demonstration. Comparable protests in Peru (2023), Colombia (2021), and Hong Kong (2019) were posted at similar stages. When a discrete incident catalyzed state response and international consequences, not when they had the biggest crowds. Indonesia’s weight as a G20 democracy further strengthens global relevance. ITN is about what’s in the news now; this clearly is. Kaliper¹｜t. 05:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The comment by ArionStar above is correct. As the article clearly notes these protests are part of the wider 2025 Indonesian protests which began in February and which we have already posted. Should we then repost its sub incidents whenever they flare up. For that to happen the sub event should be notable beyond the larger unrest and despite the unfortunate deaths and arson I don't see how this rises up beyond that. PS: Would like to note though that the comment above "Tiananmen-style incident" or "a revolution" needs to occur for this to be posted is quite over the top. We aren't really waiting for massacres or a government toppling to post a major protest. Gotitbro (talk) 05:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

  This protest by itself is both part of the wider earlier 2025 Indonesian Protests and also notable enough as a separate nomination due to the direct killing of the motorcycle driver during the protests and its more destructive protests nature in the aftermath, with burnings of public facilities and general unrest all over the affected cities. If you want more specifics, this applies to any protests after the night of 28 August. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 06:34, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose for these nominated blurbs, it appears that "three people killed in Makassar due to arson" carried much more significant impact and more notable than any other post-Affan Kurniawan's killing protests appeared recently. So, i suggest the blurb to be updated to reflect a new information happened in Makassar, because the majority of those died are in the city. (ex. like The Guardian, Al Jazeera, The New York Times RNZ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.1.237.159 (talk) 06:47, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support. WP:ITNUPDATE - the article was created just yesterday; WP:ITNSIGNIF - this is a significant escalation of a longer political crisis; WP:ITNQUALITY - comprehensive, quality generally good compared to other ITN event articles, and given the rapid writing and volume of text and sources. Boud (talk) 10:47, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support It's a significant escalation. Also this CNA analysis article might be also a good resource.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:21, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support per everybody else Nyanardsan (talk) 17:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: the photo is nominated on deletion, perhaps it can be used the flag of Indonesia as an alternative if it is okay, if not, just post the blurb only. ROY is WAR Talk! 23:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

  It should've been tagged with VTRS instead of deletion nomination, I'm currently asking my friend who took the photo to sign a license release. See c:User_talk:Jeromi_Mikhael#To_A1Cafel Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:50, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Well, in that case, the blurb might post anytime now. If the photo was confirmed and approved by VRT, you can update to WP:ERROR. ROY is WAR Talk! 02:59, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Post-Posting Update: A VRTS request have been confirmed for the image in question under ticket:2025083110000424. Thus fulfilling the request from nominator for permission from the source and author. Kaliper¹｜t. 05:49, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  @Admins willing to post ITN: The image should be safe for use alongside blurb now. Kaliper¹｜t. 06:05, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

•  Posted altblurb for brevity and balance with the rest of the content on the main page. The image will come later after we have sort out the permission issue. There is also no rush to post up the image given that the Thai PM blurb is posted, may hold off updating the image until some 6-12 hours later at the least. – robertsky (talk) 04:08, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Thats actually quite perfect. As local news indicate peak protest would start on September 1st in Indonesia. Kaliper¹｜t. 06:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Article is 100% well-sourced, notable and supported by reliable sources. This article depicts how Indonesian people fight against political corruption because of the abuse of power made by the Indonesian government or in other cases, they are protesting against the government. Note that this protest has a similar impact on 2024 United Kingdom riots. For additional sources aside only from The New York Times, ABC, and AL Jazeera, you can look at the other sources above. Fabvill (Talk to me!), 04:14, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
  • @Fabvill: Please be mindful of not overriding earlier edits. – robertsky (talk) 05:29, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

    I was about to post this but did not realize there is an edit conflict. Fabvill (Talk to me!) 06:22, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Shouldn't really compare riots by political extremists to protests and unrest over government corruption. Gotitbro (talk) 06:42, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  @Gotitbro: it's good at highlighting bias editors may have, the UK riots had a higher support to oppose ratio when it was posted on the 5 August 2024 when there was 247+ arrested compared to this which has at least 600 arrested. Sahaib (talk) 09:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Paetongtarn Shinawatra removed from office

Article: Paetongtarn Shinawatra (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Prime Minister of Thailand Paetongtarn Shinawatra is removed from office by the Constitutional Court of Thailand for ethical misconduct over leaked phone calls she had with former Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Tofusaurus (talk) 09:36, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Removal of head of state head of government is good enough for posting. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 09:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Note: She's head of government, not head of state. The king is the head of state. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm talking about the removal/resignation of ceremonial head of state/government in general, BTW. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 09:59, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Major political change. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This was nominated in July and was not posted due to quality issues. The quality issues remain and her removal is arguably stale now as the court ruling just seems to have been a formality as this is obviously a political matter. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:08, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  But how can it be stale if the Court's final and formal decision was published today? _-_Alsor (talk) 10:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  She was removed from power in July and the loss of political power is what matters. The real political process seems to be behind the scenes in which she was a figurehead for the Shinawatra clan while the court judgement seems to have been a rubber stamp or show trial. Anyway, the quality issues remain. The supports above utterly fail to address issues such as the orange tag. Andrew🐉(talk)

• This seems like a good moment to feature 2025 Thai political crisis. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:13, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as none of this appears documented in the article - a big orange expansion tag sits where all that needs to be. To Andrew's point, I think this point is more the point of no return; July she was suspended but that didn't mean she might have regained it later, but with this decision, the court has now officially booted her. Masem (t) 12:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• The court routinely dismisses politicians; it's what it's there for – to ensure that the conservative elites – the military and royalists – maintain control. Listening to the BBC bulletin just now, they described Thailand as a fake democracy. We should not take such shams at face value and mislead readers into supposing that there is true democracy and rule of law there. To really understand what's going on, see explainers such as SCMP. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  Unless we have a wide agreement across RSes that Thailand is a fake democracy (eg akin to how Russia and North Korea are generally portrayed), we shouldn't be trying to take that stance as factual. The SCMP article only points out that there's a rift between the Shinawatra family and the military/royalists over how to run the country. Masem (t) 13:23, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• I'm not the one wanting to post a credulous claim on the main page. But I've already cited a couple of sources. And there's lots more out there. I like this analysis which explains the problem and gives Thailand as a leading example, "everyone pretends to be a democracy now, even the totalitarian dictators. ... This dynamic is on display now in Thailand ... it’s the most coup-prone country in the world over the last century ... This is the modus operandi of counterfeit democracies: make changes that ensure that you can have elections without real democracy. Rig the elections if you must, or, better yet, make them meaningless. Just in case your rivals get into power, fill the courts with loyalists...". Andrew🐉(talk) 16:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

  A random blog is not a reliable source. And while the point is taken that if you have a standard three-body government (legislature, executive, judicial) and fill 2 of those three with people behind a common cause, that can weaken the idea of democracy (much less all 3), but the democracy is still there, in constast to what Russia and N. Korea claim but where one person has full control and experts agree the elections are far from free or fair. Masem (t) 16:59, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Freedom House map as of 2023.

  Free

  Partly Free

  Not Free

• That's not a random blog as the author is "Professor of Global Politics at University College London", is specifically familiar with Thailand and so is a subject-matter expert.

And there are others who study these things systematically such as Freedom House who rate Thailand as "Not Free", along with North Korea and Russia. (see map)

Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support This is a big political change to officially remove the head of government. Worthy of posting. NewishIdeas (talk) 16:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support It's like an impeachment process. ArionStar (talk) 18:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on article quality. Substantial article expansion to address this event is required. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support head of government change. Scuba 01:56, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support While the removal occured in July, we did not feature it then with the formal process now over looks like a good time to feature this. Article quality appears fine to me as well. This would also have been standard ITNR head of government change back in July (stale for that now). Assertions of 'fake democracy' et. al. as such don't really stand, the monarch has no real power and while the military asserts major power as an institution, the prime minister still is still the one running the country regardless of the number of coups against them (the reason they need to be couped in the first place), this really has no bearing on the INT nom. Gotitbro (talk) 06:10, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

The Prime Minister isn't running the country – there isn't one now and the court keeps dismissing any holders of this office – this is the fifth such dismissal since 2008. See How anti-democracy activism shapes Thailand’s autocracy "...drawn on Thailand as an extreme case whose historical roots of authoritarianism, consolidated anti-system elites, protracted polarisation, and extensive repression configure the unique development of authoritarian civil society". Andrew🐉(talk) 10:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Even if the fact that there's "powers that be" that were above the PM position, the PM is still responsible for policymaking and leading the government. So I don't think it would be fair to simply dismiss this as a "puppet change". NotKringe (talk) 11:39, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:19, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support per others. Some of the opposes make little sense: if she wasn't in charge, why was she speaking to the leaders of Cambodia? The details of the political reasons for her dismissal by the courts can be found in the article. Khuft (talk) 20:39, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: uninvolved admins, the nomination has been in 2 days (might different timezone) and the consensus is sufficient. ROY is WAR Talk! 03:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
•  Posted a shorter blurb based on what's provided for brevity and balance with the rest of the content on mainpage. – robertsky (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mufti Kifayatullah

Article: Mufti Kifayatullah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: a former member of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly and senior JUI-F religious and political leader. Ainty Painty (talk) 04:13, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Support, everything cited, good length Kowal2701 (talk) 09:37, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

• Comment No citation for DOB. Curbon7 (talk) 09:47, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

References

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: